You snotty little dumbasses. Go out and get JOBS!!!!!!!
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The comments around here are getting attention. Note to the few uninformed emailing me: I don't control the speech of others. All I can do is keep the Obama flame throwers out who took down my comment section, and eject them from my junk mail folder regularly and often. Let me also add that many of the new people who found my site have been driven away from some of the biggest progressive blogs on the web, because their commenters wouldn't allow them to speak, or the proprietors don't let them in. That's what has happened to Obamabots who try to post here, because they simply cannot control their vitriol, and I don't have time to babysit them. Many Hillary supporters are ticked off at being maligned and censored just because they back Clinton. They have every right to feel that way. As for the conversation in comment sections across the web that Obama's campaign is a "cult," well, many of us who are watching what is happening are worried. We're not in small numbers. We're nominating a president, not a motivational preacher, Elmer Gantry, or L. Ron Hubbard replacement. Read this article about "Obama basic training," which revolves around anything but issues, and you'll see why many of us recoil. That ignoring issues for personal stories is done by design makes it even more frightening. It's the reason headlines are starting to pop up everywhere that are making matters worse, which should concern all Democrats: "Obama Claims the (Thorny) Crown." Can "Obama Camp" be far behind?
But the real problem is that with all of Barack Obama's hope propaganda, the preaching and the "yes we can" mania, what many of us on the other side have had to fight off is invective so vile it requires obscenity disclaimers to share. The more involved you are the more intense the hatred on all levels. May the gods protect you if you're a woman. Nothing can if you're also someone who supports Hillary Clinton. Dare you dissect Obama's lack of policy specifics, or catch people in the act of lying or in the act of projecting Clinton unfairly and negatively, because then you're credibility is questioned, or you are called a "liar," "a witch," a "racist," which is a favorite of Obamabots, or worse, usually much, much worse. So let's just say some of these experiences hardly comport with the press releases of Mr. Hope, or the deification currently under way of him by his unhinged, out of control, thin skinned supporters. It's all Clinton's fault, yes, I know the drill.
Eric Jong found out the hard way what happens when you write positive things about Clinton after her reasoned op-ed.
Ever since I wrote an article in the Washington Post ten days ago, I've been getting love letters from women and super-smart men and brickbats from the Hillary-Haters. Unfortunately the Hillary-Haters are in charge. They monopolize the networks, the newspapers, the talk shows -- both radio and TV. They are crossing their legs for fear of castration. They are wearing the body armor our troops never got. Or got too late to matter. They are determined that a woman will not prove herself competent as Commander in Chief.
What's their ammunition? Oh, it's simple. They call her Mrs. Clinton, not Ms. or Senator. They pull out those nutcrackers in the shape of her supposed thighs. They complain about her ankles -- too thick. They complain on Fox TV that "White women are the problem" -- (idiot boy Kristol, the brain-damaged scion of Irving who rose through nepotism like our unelected "president"). Then they say she has "baggage" -- which could mean wrinkles, or her husband, or her daughter Chelsea whom they say she is "pimping." Then they say she never divorced Bill -- as if it's anyone's business. Then they moon over Obama's rhetorical style. Then they make it appear that she's a drone or a worker bee and has no royal jelly. Or else she has royal jelly and is queen bee. And that's her problem. ... ..
... .. Let me tell you about the Hillary-Haters who fill my inbox, they can't spell. They also believe in witchcraft. They believe HRC boils eye of newt with unborn baby's hair and little Jewish children not yet circumcised. They think she had a child with Vince Foster (even though Chelsea looks much like Bill and even his mother), then murdered him. They think she will leave Iraq, not leave Iraq, give us universal health care, not give us universal health care, sanction the killing of fetuses, not sanction the killing of fetuses, defend Israel, not defend Israel, end the Death Tax, not end the Death tax. ... ..
Visit any article or blog post saying anything remotely fair about Clinton, and what you'll see in the comment section is vile attacks that not only go over the line but are beyond the pale. Males telling me that I should tone down my rhetoric, know my place, but most are expletive laced. This is an example of what I regularly get, day after day, week after week, month after month over the last almost year since I started targeting Obama's lack of specifics and his policy dodging. It got worse this past fall when I openly began supporting Clinton.
You f---ing crazy c---! Can't wait to read your posts after Barack wins the nomination, than the presidency, you racist b----!
B----, you are totally, like, the Ann F---ing Coulter of liberalism. I wanna get on you so bad. My hardon is for you, my swastika is true. KEEP THAT N----- DOWN, YOU WHITE SUBURBAN B----!!!!
A message I'm posting wherever I can: Taylor Marsh should be banned from the planet. Her filthy, racist, dishonest invective has no place in a civilized discussion. ... .. If you persist, I will destroy you.
Believe me, this is nothin', though I'm no longer personally looking at this email myself. Mind you, this is coming from "progressive" people in the "Democratic" party, which is not to be confused with my usual wingnut hate mail that is rather amusing.
I don't think people understand what's going on behind the scenes in this primary race. I've been on the front lines for a very long time. That I had the nerve to question Barack Obama's lack of specificity was one thing. That it revealed itself when he ducked out of the very first Democratic primary forum, then showed up at the very first health care forum completely clueless about health care, gave me an inkling of the story line to come and that has been playing out for months. That I took up Hillary's charge later on was yet another. But it really is that I won't be led around without knowing where I'm being taken that so infuriates the Obamabots.
The supporters of Hillary Clinton can't come close to what's being spread by Obama crazed fans. Anyone saying they are is uninformed, ignorant or not closely enough involved to know what's actually happening. I am. You're wrong.
The rhetorical assaults are one thing, the threats another, though we're prepared for that as well. But what these people say about the zealotry behind the Obama campaign is not only alarming, but dangerous to our democracy. It is akin to emails I've received over the years from the anti-abortionist zealots on their own personal political war path. The insanely reactive, accept no compromise, unhinged religious fervor of a movement that was not only destructive to women, but to our politics. It is the same unbending group think that leads people off cliffs. That's what I'm getting from Obama fans. It's something that is unhealthy, even destructive to the Democratic party. Not for nothin', but Rush Limbaugh is picking up on it too. Beware, the backlash is coming. I'm not going to be anywhere near it when it hits.
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And while we're all bickering there are bigger problems and issues going on out there. Our government is promoting torture for Christ's sake. We have problems to solve. There is nothing wrong with questioning the backgrounds of the candidates to find where they really stand on the issues - that's a positive way to move forward, win the election and make some changes. But instead we're behaving like screaming toddlers over petty differences.
I know we've talked about this before, but I just can't get it through my head why people want to go out of their way to hate something.
So on a positive note - a very Happy Val day to you and Kev as well!!
We had 75 one day and it dropped to 20 the next day. Geesh. My Speedo is back on over my pants.
We got a surprise today in the mail and I was so happy. You are such a sweetheart. I'll have my portion while I'm being attacked tomorrow morning before work. The other things will be passed along to the apropriate species,lol.
I'm getting so tired of all the progressive thinkers I'm encountering lately. As long as everybody has what they want they seem to be okay with that. They don't seem to want everybody else to have the chance for all the things they enjoy (that other people fought for). I'm seeing raqcial slurs all over the place and most of them are directed at me. I'm starting to think about moving out of the country again. My freedom clock is ticking and I wonder if I'm going to make it to the finish line sometimes. With global warming maybe Sweden will warm up 30 or 40 degrees and I can handle the climate,lol. I know there's weed all over Amsterdam. I was very happy to hear Steven Spielberg backed out of the Olympics in China. Maybe Darfur might get some much needed help. Shit, I'd probably be better off there. I'm coming up that way in a month or so and I would love to see you if only for a cup of coffee and a therapy session. Thanks for the gift. You're a good friend Val. Hope you guys are doing good.
I whole heartedly agree. I'm thankful that on my pro-Hillary post I didn't get shit on, but I have a feeling it was only because I didn't attack Obama. What I find interesting is I saw numerous posts that were written after my pro-Hillary post, that were practically identical to mine...the only difference is that they simply switched the word Hillary for Obama. They got shit loads of comments and support. They were deemed "moving" and "thought provoking". I wonder why that was.
The whole Obama thing....there are some people's views I really, really respect. It surprises me that some people I know want to vote for him, but I would never attack them and tell them that they're a "fucking moron" for voting that way.
I support Hillary, and people's reactions to that have been pretty harsh. Even from my family. The reasoning behind why a lot of people want to support Obama scares me. That melodramatic "Yes we can" video scared me. It doesn't feel genuine. The cult like behavior doesn't seem informed. A lot of the reasoning why "Obama is change" is "He's not Clinton or Bush".
Saying that, I do realize and respect that there are a lot of people who DO like Obama for genuine reasons, and are making informed voting decisions.
I try not to talk about it too much because I can't deal with people's statistics and "voting history" and "true stories" and "fact" slinging.
I'm just really, really disappointed with people. I'm disappointed that adults can't have a DISCUSSION about politics without getting snarky and rude, and even more disappointed in how supposed Democrats and "Neighbors" are treating each other.
Oooh ooh ooh!! I'd love to get together. Drop me a line and we'll work out the details.
I agree. It's not so much that I have anything against him as a person. His followers are alarming me terribly. My partner and I have been verbally attacked hundreds of times. We had our lawn signs torn apart several times and his supporter's got my partner's e-mail address and signed him up for about 50 pieces of Obama spam every day. They keep going to my vox and sending me private messages filled with lies and bullshit and then call me a racist. I take up for Hillary because I have really looked into her history and am pretty impressed with what she has done. I'm still hopeful. Whenever I slam Obama I always state ahead of time or during my post that I am doing it because the media refuses to discuss many major things that keep coming out about him. So I'm actually slamming the media and not him, per se.
There is a site you might enjoy called "noquarterusa". I post stuff from it because lots of us Hillary supporters don't evwen realize that we aren't the only ones going through what we are going through. Thanks for the encouragement. So many people shy away from talking about politics but I really can't think of anything more important right now. Things are getting very bad, very fast and if the wrong choices are made we are all in for a very bumpy future. The worst thing I have seen so far is how many 17 year olds participated in the caucuses. Older people get intimidated or are just too tired to stand for 5 hours so they stay home.17 year olds get to vote in caucuses. How is that I keep asking myself. They can't vote in Primaries. Why in caucuses. All these older people who have given so much of themselves are being bullied out of the process. Maybe because I'm getting older I empathize but I don't see too many 17 year olds that I want making choices about my future. Thanks.
Thank you for telling me about "noquarterusa". I was very unaware that the Hillary-supporter bashing was so widespread, and so prevalent. That really saddens me.
This election is ending up to be such a disappointment. I was so hopeful about a week ago. And then things just got really ugly after Super Tuesday.
All best to you, and to your partner. Keep speaking your mind. We need people like you on Vox, and just in general. ;)